This starts with a dinner with hallmates in Palo Alto, and then cutting out to walk to 3 clubs. The first was a high-end cafe with one of those waitresses behind a podium at the door. I went in for the restroom, Wing talked her up, using Strawberry Fields. Hopefully he'll write up that field report. Second club was nonexistent, or had been converted into a classy-ass restaurant. Third club was a dead bar. So we walked back to school and stopped at one dorm.
SET1 was a massive piling of openers on HB5 as she walked by. She's a grad student, significantly older, and the mistake was letting her take on a motherly role early on.
PRINCIPLE for openers: never make them personal. "I have this friend..." "I heard from someone..." It has to be personal enough to have relevance, but detached enough to move on from the opener and not let it have any weight in how they perceive you.
We called it quits until we heard about the French House party that night.
Frats, man. Fuck. They're a mess: shoulder-to-shoulder crowding, loud music, massively compiled body heat, and a permeable aura of beer and bong.
I don't like it.
SET2: Walking to the house with HB9, Obstacle, and Wing was absolutely no problem. I do that all the time. I got to the point of demonstrating higher value. The frame was set (accidentally) so HB9 walked with me and Obstacle paired with Wing. Next would have been eliciting values from HB9 and showing selectiveness. The hardest part in walking is isolation; there's no reason to detract from the destination before reaching the destination.
At the stairs leading to floor2, people were shoving back and forth coming down and going up. A line I considered but didn't use when a girl and her friend both backed me into the wall was, "Is it just crowded in here, or are you groping me already?"
SET3: three guys, one HB6.5 in a room quiet enough to actually talk.
Musashi: Alright! Looks like the party's here, huh? (HB6.5 and 1 male turns to look)
Musashi: Y'all see that fight downstairs? (All turn) Fucking wild!
Guy: Naw, but that wasn't really a fight, though.
Musashi: Well....
eject. wtf? there was no fight.
Crash & Burn1: trying to save Wing's opener to two girls from behind.
Musashi: You know, I have a dress just like that...
C&B2: set of two guys and one girl outside. Girl turns to start talking intensely to guy2 just before I speak.
Musashi: (to remaining guy) Hey, what's u....
SET4: three drunk cockblocks & four girls (7's?) walking on sidewalk outside of frat
Musashi: Hey, let me ask you guys something. I have a friend...
CB1: Wait, let me get this straight. The friend is you, right?
Girl1: Let him finish!
Musashi: (two part kiss opener)
Girl3: No! That is NOT acceptable!
Girls: blah blah blah
CBs: Dude, break up with this girl, right now!
CB1: So it's you, right? This is your girlfriend?
Girl1: (to CB1) Shut up!
Musashi: Now, here's the thing though. (part two)
Girls: blah blah blah
Conversation stagnates.
Girl3: Let's go.
Eject.
THOUGHTS:
Frats suck.
Set2. If I elicited values early, I could've isolated upon walking up to the house and seeing how crowded it was. "Hey, fuck that. Let's go check out that park." "What park?" "You don't know the park? I'll show you."
Set3. I froze when they all looked at me. One second of fluster loses their attention. Stack openers if you have to in order to keep talking. Reach the hook point. Reach the hook point.
Set4. Neg the male. "Okay, I'm gonna have to cut you off, pal... Is he always like this? How do you roll with this guy? Yo, can I finish my sentence? Hey, fuck you."
Cut off two-part kiss opener sooner. If it's impersonal, you can switch to: "So how do y'all know each other?" to find out who's involved with whom. Then, to obstacle: "Hey, do you believe in ESP?"
I just reread Style's thing about his first mistakes. His approaches were fine; what he was missing was negs and time constraints. I'll add that in next time. Even without getting far enough to talk to target, opinion openers still look needy until you get to DHV with negs.
Night is very different from day.
Donatello, find some 18+ clubs in SF. The nightclub scene has got to be the most ideal. Parties are too intense, malls are too platonic.
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I'll check it out when I get back, like I said I've been down in LA these past few days.
Speaking of which, when you're visiting a college like UC Irvine or Sonoma State the turtles have a pretty good advantage over most guys in a room. We have stories, adventures and exciting shit that we do enough to have a few amazing stories. Those schools (and others like it) never have anything around to do except hang out in dorms or apartments and drink so stories make a turtle fun, exciting and give a higher value immediately which makes it easier to keep the attention of an HB and isolate them ("let me show you something" or "You should hear what happened to my friend and I the other night, let's take a walk and i'll tell you"). Walks work best in chill to warm weather. For 1, the schools that are boring, are usually ones that are well groomed and make for great walking scenery, and 2 keeping a girl warm brings her closer to you ("I don't get cold too easy, so... [are you a theif? can borrow my jacket as long as i get it back...]" playful stuff like that works).
KLUG has proved this method last time we were in irvine together. His formula, small convo, then jokes and little interesting tidbits, digital pictures, then "hey, you wanna go for a walk? get some air and some quiet?" or something of that sort. Kiss close 5 minutes later.
You should try visiting colleges where some friends go, they make the best practice spots as long as you use girls who aren't too close to whatever friend you're visiting. You've got an anchor cause' you know someone at the school and an overall time constraint because they know that you're not gonna be around for them to avoid if things don't work out.
Musashi, keep the look out for good night spots or maybe a group of girls that frequent parties and want you to come along, cause' eventually I gotta make it out to Stanford and I'm looking for the ideal time of week.
Oh and also, you might want to try smaller parties. Frat and sorority parties tend to be huge masses of people who only go to drink with their friends.
Check out ones that are just friends and friends of friends. Maybe 15-30 people tops.
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